Path of Exile 3.28 - Mirage

I did every mirage that I ran into during the campaign, so it was a ~12 hour run and 76 when I killed Kitava. Which is pretty gross. Currently at T7 and just slowly working through the tiers.

Absolution Guardian is predictably very smooth and outside of the 6L I bought I don't think I need to bother to invest anything further until T16's. Still not sure what my actual endgame build will be.

Selling random ground loot is back though, thanks to the tree nerfs. Between rares and crafting jewels for KF metas I'm in a much better position currency wise than I was last league.
 

kperrier

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just got to maps, 21 hours 45 minutes in /played, Did a lot mirages and I am level 76, I also picked up a lot gear to try and find better boots.
Currency:
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and Essence:
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Essence is crazy!
 

Sunner

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Hah, I did a mirage with soul eater, and I got a shrine with both echo and acceleration, and shock nova of procession is fast as fuck to begin with, and linked to both cast speed and spell echo. I don't think I've ever seen such absolute screen murder. Almost made me wish I had some kind of screen recording application just to save it for posterity.
 

Thegn

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Boneshatter is really good and a pain in the ass. You run up to something, hit it, it explodes and kills everything else around it. Wash, rinse, repeat. The downside? You have to hit something as opposed to fire something in the general direction of a mob.

It has been great in delve, not so much in mapping. Thinking about just bypassing the map to the boss and the sulfite nodes.
 

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I was going to make a "WHAR DIVS" post, but I found them.

I have been following Jorgen's stuff, and I was aware that there would be changes in the Delve economy. As I was diving, I was trying to sell my fossils & resonators, and was rather unimpressed with the prices I was getting. Then I found two 4 slot resonators and a div...

Some side observations about Delve. The divs are not in the destination, they're in the journey. If you do "short" node hops, the side passages generally won't go anywhere. You need one "tile" between your starting point and your destination to really drive the prices.

While good stuff can drop anywhere, it seems like the best drops are behind the walls that can be dynamited. There are a few fossils that are "worth it" still - hollow fossils are pretty good - but for the most part you'll get more divs by searching for the walls and blowing them up. I haven't tried a darkness run and reset rather than running the path strategy; might be worth exploring.

Oh, and my depth? Just got below 200. Haven't even hit cruising depth yet - aiming for 450.
 

Thegn

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So as much as I'm enjoying Boneshatter, I don't know why people consider it a great Delve runner because of two mods:

1. Monsters can't be stunned.
2. Monsters steal endurance (and other) charges on hit.

The first one wrecks my clear - my AoE depends on stunning a mob, which then puts out a big burst of damage to all the other mobs around it. The second one makes me extremely squishy. Both of them show up pretty regularly as I'm trying to descend to my ideal depth. I can make do with the first, but as the mobs get tougher and tougher, the second one is pretty much "route around" now.
 

Sunner

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I was going to make a "WHAR DIVS" post, but I found them.

I have been following Jorgen's stuff, and I was aware that there would be changes in the Delve economy. As I was diving, I was trying to sell my fossils & resonators, and was rather unimpressed with the prices I was getting. Then I found two 4 slot resonators and a div...

Some side observations about Delve. The divs are not in the destination, they're in the journey. If you do "short" node hops, the side passages generally won't go anywhere. You need one "tile" between your starting point and your destination to really drive the prices.

While good stuff can drop anywhere, it seems like the best drops are behind the walls that can be dynamited. There are a few fossils that are "worth it" still - hollow fossils are pretty good - but for the most part you'll get more divs by searching for the walls and blowing them up. I haven't tried a darkness run and reset rather than running the path strategy; might be worth exploring.

Oh, and my depth? Just got below 200. Haven't even hit cruising depth yet - aiming for 450.
I view Delve as being kinda similar to scarab/box/shrine strats, which is to say a steady trickle of currency with the occasional big payout. Sure getting a 5c fossil isn't as exciting as the "Tink!" from a div, but getting fossils on the regular will build up a good bit of cash after a while. Plus I just think it's fun.
Also I do like that they've made spelunking more profitable now, I always liked that aspect of delve but it was so fucking unrewarding before.

Oh and the dropbears used to be an exploit back when Delve was new, people would find one of those nodes, run there and kill all the mobs for X seconds then logout. Back then you'd get the XP for the encounter while it was ongoing so you could do this until you ran out of sulphite.
 

Sunner

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Oh and thanks to...Palsteron? Or maybe Dreamcore? Anyway thanks for the idea of running Nightmare maps with the scarabs that nullify prefixes/suffixes, makes those terrible bossfights consideraby less of a pain in the dick. Of course fucking...what's her name, the Sanctum boss, still bugs out and becomes invulnerable.

I don't know if this is a hot take or not, but I still think Sirus is the best boss fight in the game. Followed by Shaper/Elder/Uber Elder. Eater and Exarch are fine, but they just don't have the same gravitas as the older bosses. Though I will give a gold star to Catarina as well, I just really don't like Syndicate so I never get to fight her.
 

Thegn

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I view Delve as being kinda similar to scarab/box/shrine strats, which is to say a steady trickle of currency with the occasional big payout. Sure getting a 5c fossil isn't as exciting as the "Tink!" from a div, but getting fossils on the regular will build up a good bit of cash after a while. Plus I just think it's fun.
Also I do like that they've made spelunking more profitable now, I always liked that aspect of delve but it was so fucking unrewarding before.
Yeah, I'm OK with trickle income, but due to the changes the bottom of the market for resonators completely fell out, which is where the trickle income was before. Now it's in the side passages.
 

Sunner

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Yeah, I'm OK with trickle income, but due to the changes the bottom of the market for resonators completely fell out, which is where the trickle income was before. Now it's in the side passages.
Yeah, I started working my way down there just for shits and giggles, found some random low tier fossils on the way, and was surprised at how expensive they were at like 5-6c each. In previous leagues they'd be 1-2.
 

Sunner

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A lot of the fossil stuff was being provided by non-delve players previously.
Yeah, but as far as I know the primes never dropped outside of Delve, or if they did they would have been extraordinarily rare. I tend to delve at least a little bit ever league and normally primes are around the 100-120c range, I'm really curious why they're so much more expensive this league seeing as they seem more common, and I would expect more people than normal are delving as well.

Ah well, not gonna complain, got me 5 div of profit (so far) for just doing the basic gruntwork of actualkly getting to some kind of reasonable depth. :p Normally I'd expect that bit to just be entirely non profitable, excepting leagues where I start delving right away to sell early curse on hit rings.
 
Yeah, but as far as I know the primes never dropped outside of Delve, or if they did they would have been extraordinarily rare. I tend to delve at least a little bit ever league and normally primes are around the 100-120c range, I'm really curious why they're so much more expensive this league seeing as they seem more common, and I would expect more people than normal are delving as well.

Ah well, not gonna complain, got me 5 div of profit (so far) for just doing the basic gruntwork of actualkly getting to some kind of reasonable depth. :p Normally I'd expect that bit to just be entirely non profitable, excepting leagues where I start delving right away to sell early curse on hit rings.
Ritual gave them quite a bit. Tujen might have as well, but I can't be certain.
 

Apteris

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I don't know if this is a hot take or not, but I still think Sirus is the best boss fight in the game. Followed by Shaper/Elder/Uber Elder. Eater and Exarch are fine, but they just don't have the same gravitas as the older bosses. Though I will give a gold star to Catarina as well, I just really don't like Syndicate so I never get to fight her.
The boss encounter designers at GGG are that writer-with-flaming-quill picture, like all the time.

In addition to the ones you've listed, I really dig the Expedition bosses. They have flavour. The Incarnation of Dread is wicked cool too. And the fight with the new(-ish) Breach bosses in the Hive ain't bad either.
 

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The boss encounter designers at GGG are that writer-with-flaming-quill picture, like all the time.

In addition to the ones you've listed, I really dig the Expedition bosses. They have flavour. The Incarnation of Dread is wicked cool too. And the fight with the new(-ish) Breach bosses in the Hive ain't bad either.
Yeah that's true, I rarely do much expeditioning either so I've only fought them a handful of times but they're also good stuff. Admittedly I think a large part of why I like the bosses I do is also they had a lot of build up before. I imagine for someone who started playing later on running into Sirus or Shaper they'd be real confused who the fuck they are other than loot givers. Or XP takers, depending on the circumstances. :p
Also the music, Sirus's music is just absolutely fucking awesome, back when his disintegration storms were more annoying I didn't even use to mind since I could just chill and listen to the music while waiting for them to stop fucking around.
 
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Apteris

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Admittedly I think a large part of why I like the bosses I do is also they had a lot of build up before. I imagine for someone who started playing later on running into Sirus or Shaper they'd be real confused who the fuck they are
Yeah, it's a pity. Up until they added the Eater and Exarch, I think, the Conquerors would drop their lore in order, per Conqueror. Veritania's Journal I, Veritania's Journal II, Drox's Journal I, and so on, eventually arriving at Sirus' journals.

Afterwards, each Conqueror started dropping a random Journal when defeated. So you weren't just getting the story any more, you'd need to hunt it down, if you decided you wanted to know it. And it's a good story.
 

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Yeah, it's a pity. Up until they added the Eater and Exarch, I think, the Conquerors would drop their lore in order, per Conqueror. Veritania's Journal I, Veritania's Journal II, Drox's Journal I, and so on, eventually arriving at Sirus' journals.

Afterwards, each Conqueror started dropping a random Journal when defeated. So you weren't just getting the story any more, you'd need to hunt it down, if you decided you wanted to know it. And it's a good story.
Yeah, there was even that little part where you did a short mission in Oriath with Kirac, which also explained a bit about who he was and so on. And these days the conquerors just drop the Sirus journals right away, though they do it in order at least.
 

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for all of the Exaults and Chaos I have had drop, I have yet to see a Div drop. I am finding Palstron's Heiro Kinetic Fussillade to be really solid. Finishing out tier 9 maps, moving on to 10, done the first 2 Maven invitations, just added the Exarch to my map device. I have not yet hit the wall like I have with other builds where I have to invest a lot of currency to get to that next tier.

The Mirage maps, are those just better to sell, or are they better to run?

edit: I have made 90-120C selling them so far.
 
The Mirage maps, are those just better to sell, or are they better to run?

The ones that have the full map also be miraged? Well for stuff that can be miraged, they effectively double your map value, so as long as your scarab set costs more than the cost of the mirage map then it is worth it to run them (minus a bit I guess since normal mirage catches some content, but you get the idea).
 

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I think I've maxed out my Boneshatter Jugg - it's doing pretty well in Delve as long as I avoid bad affixes. DPS is meh - sheet DPS is 3m, but only if I've got my tincture on and I'm at 10 stacks of trauma, which given that it can only hit 9 (2.8m at that point) before resetting, I'm not sure why PoB uses that as the "peak". Maybe the last hit gets the 10 trauma damage before it resets? Supposedly I can get it up to 7-10m DPS by switching to crit; the 10m build I saw had an echoes of creation, so... Yeah, given my prior experience with how it totally tanked my survivability, probably not.

Kinda want to build a DPS machine that is both survivable and isn't another Animate Ranged Weapons necro for map clear & bossing. Delve is insanely profitable.
 

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I have so many augs and chance orbs. They were not kidding when they said currency drops were increased. And I didn't like the new Templar starter skill. I went back to rolling magma, if that tells you how bad I found it. I died to rhoas 4 or 5 times in the mud flats.
Really? I found it to be much easier to use than rolling magma. Rolling magma always has those weird bounces that miss the thing you're actually trying to kill.
 
wow, a decent Aegis Aurora for 25c? yes please! And its isn't corrupt so I can roll the socket colors I need!
Just checking to make sure you know the ways to roll colors on corrupt items.

You can use the bench crafts that roll with a specific 1 or 2 colors at the base cost +1 Vaal for each chrome. You can also do the socket count forcing crafts too.

Or there is always tainted chromes.


Only checking because the cost/effort of coloring three socket corrupt items is pretty much nothing, so it’s weird to call out.
 
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